Coronavirus Update pt 3 / Short Season details

It should work this way, but I am warning leagues that want this to happen to actively plan for the contingency where it does not work correctly.

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If you choose to have playoffs this year, they will start on Monday, August 31.

As a general reminder, commissioners can change league settings right now, including enabling/disabling playoffs.

Perhaps an obvious question, but: For H2H leagues that have multiple divisions, would the teams with the three best records finish in the money regardless of division?

From the release of H2H:

Removing playoffs should not destroy your division structure, but the top 3 will be determined by best record without considering divisions.

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If a player opts out, will his salary remain the same for next season? Or will it go up by $1 or $2? (Not including arb)

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This is a good question. The salary inflation of $2 applies to anyone who played in a major league game in the last 2 years. At the end of this season, that would include 2019 and 2020. So a player who opts out of 2020 but played in the majors in 2019 will go up $2. A player who opts out of 2020 and didn’t play in the majors in 2019 will go up $1.

All players will have either $1 or $2 inflation applied by the system.

@nivshah, forgive me if you’ve already addressed this, but how will the ottoneu season account for the 2020 season if it starts and is then stopped or cancelled before the regular season is deemed ‘completed’? Does MLB have to declare a ‘completed MLB regular season’ in order for our ottoneu season to count?

Niv, I understand your business decision to not reprogram your game to allow something other than business as usual. However, as a participant, it annoys me greatly to lose a year of a competitive team in a season that at best represents 37% of a full season, and and at worst could end after 2-4 weeks for Covid-19 reasons. Allocation should be reduced pro rata to the games played. Likewise, MLB players should add only $1 for a 60 game season, and MiLB guys who won’t play any games at the MLB level should not have anything added to their price.

And furthermore, if the actual MLB regular season lasts less than 25 games … I can’t call that a fantasy season. And we play fantasy ball, so there should be no allocations at all, and no automatic cost increases inasmuch as we did not crown a real champion.

I’ll answer both at once:

Each MLB season has an official status. If the season is deemed incomplete or canceled, we will revisit prize money, arbitration, and inflation at that time, per my note here. If the MLB season is determined by MLB to be completed, we will have normal inflation, arbitration and prize money.


There should be no inflation for a 30 games season. It should be a buck for a 60 games season but nothing for MiLB guys who made no MLB appearances. We play fantasy ball, which is based on real life, but should not be dependent upon it in our leagues.

@Jackelder If your league(s) want to do that, pretty sure your commissioner can make that happen.

FWIW, I would be annoyed if any of my leagues cut back increases and stuff. Doing that will result in more keepers and a relatively boring off-season and draft. We are just wrapping up 3-4 boring months. I don’t want to exacerbate the problem by making the off-season less fun, too. I would find out if your leagues are aligned with you and, if they are, have the commish manage it. As a commissioner of a couple leagues that use a slow draft that we do off-site, I can tell you it isn’t that hard/time consuming to adjust player salaries and stuff.


My two cents is that one of the great things about ottoneu is the ability to manage those types of issues through the commissioner tools. Leaves it up to each league to decide, not Niv making a unilateral decision.


@themiddle54 and @jackelder, what you are both asking for can happen if your league/commish are interested in putting forth the effort. The key is gaining consensus within your league, since most folks don’t seem to agree with you on the forums. It seems like the majority of everyone on fantasy baseball websites is excited for a fantasy baseball season…

Just because the majority of folks don’t seem to agree with your assertions (predictions, valuations, etc…) doesn’t necessarily make you wrong, but it probably means you shouldn’t be asking for rule changes that would affect everyone to accommodate them.


Leif, yes we are all excited to have even some baseball. But I am not sure most folks disagree with me on reduced salary increases over a short season. I am fairly sure most would agree with me if our season has to end after less than 30 games. 30 games is like ending a season on May 15 in a normal year; that is not enough to crown a real champion, so we may have a lot of small sample winners who likely would have finished out of the money over a 162 game season.

What I think matters not. Niv has refused to change the raises, even for MiLB guys who do not see live AB’s in organized leagues in 2020.

I will work to persuade my league to skip allocations to de-emphasize the damage to our best players. That would help, some.

If MLB says a season is complete and official (as opposed to cancelled), Ottoneu as a fantasy sports provider is not in a position to choose to acknowledge it or not acknowledge it. Conditional salary increases based on games played is a poor precedent to set. Ottoneu does not have agency in deciding what a sports season is or isn’t.

It is an impossibility to address hypotheticals without knowing how MLB will react, so we will pay close attention to how MLB will deal with any unexpected scenario and move forward accordingly.


Ottoneu has agency to decide on Ottoneu things such as salary increases. That has nothing to do with cash payouts in money leagues.

But at least you leave the door open to ‘dealing with unexpected scenarios and moving forward accordingly.’

I think we are talking in circles now, but there are reasons stated in this thread why inflation is staying the way it is. If your league wants to reverse inflation, it has the tools to do so.

These are the reasons for the $2 and $1 inflations to remain in place, even after a shorter MLB season.

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Inflation and arbitration create owner bitterness in seasons where their team’s window has opened wide but a 40 game season and concomitant randomness leads to too short a season to win it all.

We have just had a full off season of player movement and an active draft. Which is the point: why can we not play out a full season, 2021 or 2022, with some semblance of our 2020 team without it completely going up in the smoke of inflation?