Is it just me or did the presets for Ottoneu formats change in the Auction Calculator on Fangraphs. I’m getting the wrong number of batters, pitchers, and bench players. Curious if anyone else is experiencing this?
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These were good changes. I was doing several of these things manually ever time, and it’s nice to have them already populated. There’s also a few things I wasn’t doing that make a lot of sense.
Has anyone else noticed that the FanGraphs auction calculator presets for Ottoneu changed this year? It has different numbers of starters by position from actual lineups (and varies depending on the scoring format). It also sets budget at 380 rather than 400.
What do people think about the settings? I think they give more realistic values when considering that people play for both the future and the current season, and given rosters are so deep people often have more bench options available than in a shallower league. I am curious to understand the methodology and reasoning behind each decision. Specifically I’m curious whether this is designed with daily leagues in mind (would make sense given ability to use more SP’s in a given week), or whether it’s agnostic between daily and weekly leagues.
Edit: Deleted my original post because I failed to see this earlier post and Chad’s FG article (thanks Niv for moving my post).
I’m still interested in the community’s thoughts on what the appropriate settings are for weekly leagues. I think it’s clear that the old defaults generate values that are too aggressive in weekly leagues, but without the ability to make daily moves, fewer lineup slots should be added.
Here is what I’m planning to use as defaults in RotoHound:
Daily: Chad/FG’s new defaults exactly, but with budget increased to 400 from 380. (The tool is used in-season as much as pre-season; I think competing teams shouldn’t leave anything on the table.)
Weekly:
- 5x5: C 1.5, 1B 1, 2B 1, SS 1, 3B 1, OF 6, MI 1.5, CI 0.5, UT 0.5, SP 7, RP 5, Bench 14 (edits: 1 fewer OF, 0.5 less MI/CI, 1 fewer SP)
- 4x4: C 1.5, 1B 1, 2B 1, SS 1, 3B 1, OF 7, MI 1.5, CI 0.5, UT 0.5, SP 8, RP 5, Bench 12 (edits: 0.5 less C, 1 fewer OF, 0.5 less MI/CI, 1 fewer SP)
- FG/SABR Points: C 1.5, 1B 1, 2B 1, SS 1, 3B 1, OF 7, MI 2, CI 0.5, UT 0.5, SP 7.5, RP 6, Bench 11 (0.5 less C, 1 fewer OF, 1 fewer MI, 0.5 less CI, 1.5 less SP, 1 fewer RP)
I don’t actually play in any weekly lineup Ottoneu leagues, but I do play weekly elsewhere and I think you could actually go shallower than you are. Like in 4x4, 1 C, maybe 6 OF, 7 SP. honestly maybe just 4 RP - i know you will want to start 5 every week, but not sure i really care deeply to value that many.
similar in points - maybe just 1 MI, 6 OF, 7 SP, 5 RP. I don’t see a need to VALUE a 6th RP - I can only start 5.
One other thing in weekly is you probably want to turn off “experimental” or maybe do values using it and NOT using it. the issue is that the “experimental” setting is probably right for someone like Blake Snell or Mike Trout (will play/start as expected every day unless/until they get hurt and miss time and then you will start someone else) but it is wrong for someone like Kerry Carpenter or another platoon bat (you will start them when you start them, but they will maybe miss 1-2 games each week or only get 1 PA those games or something).
Oh, and one additional other thought: how easy is it to max out innings in weekly lineup leagues? Are you able to get to 1500? If not, high volume pitchers and bulk relievers/followers should get a boost, and I think turning OFF experimental will help with that.
Thanks, this is really helpful!
On RP, could you explain why you might go 4? Isn’t there always value to having at least 5?
That’s very clear on “Experimental”. I bet with some ingenuity there would be a way to identify which players should only get the daily replacement value (those projected for ~500 PA on a strong-side platoon) vs. those who should get weekly experimental value (where injuries are expected to reduce playing time).
It is very hard to max out innings in a weekly league. The IP leader in each of our last 10 seasons was around 1300. Appreciate the insight.