Fangraph points vs SABR points

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#1

First of all, I’ve never played an Ottoneu points league (or, indeed, any kind of points league) before so please excuse my ignorance!

But I’m wondering about the difference between FGPts and SABR points. As far as I can see, the hitting points are the same - and the only difference in pitching is in Hits, HR and IP.

FGPts
Pitching
IP 7.4
K 2.0
H -2.6
BB -3.0
HBP -3.0
HR -12.3
SV 5.0
HOLDS 4.0

SABR
Pitching
IP 5.0
K 2.0
BB -3.0
HBP -3.0
HR -13.0
SV 5.0
HOLDS 4.0

Is that right? If it is, I’m curious why the FGPts system was introduced? Do those three changes really make for a significantly different game to the original SABR points?

And if so, how does it affect player values? Who would be higher in SABR than in FGPts, for example - and vice versa?


#2

http://www.fangraphs.com/fantasy/a-new-fantasy-pitching-points-system-proposal/

I think that article calls out FGPts as what we now call SABR and the “new proposal” is what we now call FGPts, but that should help


#3

SABR points are almost a perfect proxy for FIP on a rate basis. FGPts favors high strikeout pitchers as they allow much fewer hits/IP, and the high walk guys that get dinged in SABR can still be valuable in FGPts as long as they have high Ks. Control pitchers (think Tim Hudson) are typically worth a fair bit more in SABR. Lastly, FGPts results in a much wider spread of Pts/IP, so the best pitchers are worth more in that format, and it’s much easier to manage a cheap rotation in SABR.


#4

Sorry for reviving an old thread but it’s relevant to my question.

Is it true that FGPt leagues are more numerous than SABR leagues? I am just finishing up my second year in a SABR league (186) and I am wondering if I should consider switching to a FGPt league instead.


#5

Yes, this is true. You can see all the active leagues here:

https://ottoneu.fangraphs.com/browseleagues


#6

There are 133+ active FGPts leagues, and about 17 active SABR leagues. You can find all league/team counts for active 12 owner leagues in my power rankings articles: https://www.fangraphs.com/fantasy/ottoneu-power-rankings-august-2017/